If you follow the link at bottom of this article there is a video from Bundy Ranch (several videos actually) and a plethora of very informative comments on the original article.
I wanted to share this because it illustrates something I have been trying to explain for several years.
Some people I know consider all new age related interests and people to be mentally vacant , colonized consumers who only care about themselves but after years of reading new age blogs and conversations with new agers online I feel that most are serious about their devotion to creating a better world.
It’s just that like most Americans they are unaware of just how much has been hidden from the public. Because they realize things have been hidden they are susceptible to the agenda driven information put out by the militant conspiracy theory groups who trace their origins back to John Birch society and KKK even tho no one wants to admit that.
So it’s logical that I saw so much Koch funded propaganda on the email spiritual discussion group that I belong to. It just overwhelmed and upset me because I know not only where it came from but what the real end result of it will be.
The Koch’s and their oil baron friends do NOT believe in freedom for the masses. They don’t believe you are sovereign beings. They just know that by encouraging such extreme reactions that they can both undermine a truly democratic society allowing them free reign to pollute and profit, and in the long term bring about exactly the fascist regime they claim to oppose.
Those who study history easily see the parallel between the Fascist Brown Shirts in Mussolini’s Italy and our current militias in the US.
Even tho many, especially in the new age, who have such childlike faith in the militias do not want or support fascism; they are being set up to help create it.
Increasing light and love means things like sharing and supporting one another. Nonviolent communication ( NVC) and nonviolence in general as well as creating solutions that bypass the oligarchy and the systems that support it.
War, violence, guns, bombs, arguing and fighting are all ways of engaging with and reviving the dying system we all oppose.
Audre Lourde said “You cannot tear down the master’s house using the master’s tools.”
This is one of the things she was talking about.
You cannot end a system based on violence by engaging in violence. Doesn’t that seem obvious when stated openly?
So the insanity going on in Bunkerville, NV right now illustrates my point.
These people are out of touch with society and the higher values we all hold despite our disagreements on certain details.
As Americans we believe in democracy and rule of law not warlords with the most firepower call the shots ala Afghanistan. Yes, with corruption our highest values don’t always work as we wish but that means clear the corruption not descend to Lord of the Flies meets Planet of the Apes.
UPDATE: Bundy Thugs “Poured Lighter Fluid Around Media Trucks & Issued Bomb Threats”
by TeamSarah4Choice May 02, 2014 9:40am PDT
In this video, Cliven Bundy issues Terrorist Demands to the United States Government:
When a bunch of American-hating thugs decided to help Cliven Bundy violently violate a Federal Court order they engaged in terrorist threats and terrorist activities against: BLM, Nevada Metro Police, Federal employees, National Park Rangers, Nevada State Police, News crews and Hotel clerks.
Within the past few days, local 8 News NOW received Police Reports and other information that show Bundy’s Anti-American, Anti-Government thugs:
– “poured lighter fluid around” news trucks,
– Issued “bomb threats” against Hotels where Federal employees were lodging,
– told hotel staff they would be “dragged out in the parking lot and shot”
– Bundy thugs asked Metro Police Sgt Jenkins if “he was ready to die”
SHERIFF LOMARDO: “We were outgunned, outmanned and there would not have been a good result from it.”
As is the case with many terrorist organizations who hold people hostage at gun point, terrorist leader Cliven Bundy issued “demands” to the United States government in exchange for releasing law enforcement from gun point and threats.
Cliven Bundy gave the US Government one hour to meet his demands and if the Government did not meet his demands his thugs would continue to terrorize law enforcement, federal employees, News crews and hotel staff.
In the video above, Bundy underscores that he is a lying, psychotic, thieving sociopath. Using a sickening, demented, terrorist method, Bundy intimidated Sheriff Lomardo into standing on stage with Bundy as Bundy gave his demands:
BUNDY: …disarm the Park service — and all Federal Parks the US Government claims they have jurisdiction over. Take your county bulldozers and tear down the entrance places — the — where they ticket us and where they – ah – entrance and make us citizens pay their fees. You get the county equipment down there and tear those things down this morning.You disarm those Park service people. You take a pick-up [truck] and I want those arms. [Facing the crowd of thugs] WE want those arms picked up don’t we? Call Riley Disposal and go up here ta this compound [pointing at Bundy’s compound] and we want all of those arms put in that compound taday! We want those arms delivered right here under these flags in one hour!And media — are you here media? I want you to go to everyplace that they gotta central park service – ah – station and you watch those county machines tear down those — those place taday in the next hour. And you [media] report back to these people — we the people in one hour. If it’s not — if there’s not done then we’ll decide what we’re gonna do from that — this point on.(emphasis in bold by me)
“I want those arms” — yeah, I’ll bet you do you crazy MF. Seriously, no surprise that psychopath, welfare-king, Cliven Bundy actually demanded the US Government give him and his loathsome thugs Government issued firearms — after all, he’s been mooching off the government for over 20 years now.
Within the last few days, Local 8 News NOW interviewed the law enforcement who were on the scene. Sheriff Lombardo described his thoughts as Bundy issued his terrorist demands:
LOMBARDO: “I mean, the hair was up on the back of my neck. There was the so-called militia surrounding the stage. There was a lot of firepower out there and it made me nervous. anything could happen,”
Lombardo went on to say
LOMBARDO: “Mr. Bundy, in my personal opinion, incited the crowd,”
Journalists Were Threatened:
8 News NOW reports their reporters were physically threatened
They were equally hostile to journalists covering the story. Pistol-packing militia men have blocked 8 News NOW’s access to public roads.Some poured lighter fluid around our news vehicle while others got physical.
Law Enforcement Threatened:
In an interview with 8 News NOW Sgt. Jenkins said a Bundy thug asked him if “he was ready to die.”
JENKINS: “Some of them, there’s no doubt from talking to me, want it, to get a chance that day to fire upon a police officer or authority period. I don’t think it mattered if it was BLM or us.”
Jenkins went on to describe that he could not get the death threat off of his mind and said:
JENKINS: “You are standing there going, ‘I just hope it doesn’t hurt when it comes. That it’s quick,’ and it was real for us. It was real.”
REPORTER: You thought you might die?JENKINS: Yeah.”
BLM and law enforcement’s objective turned from enforcing and carrying out a Federal Court order (impound and remove Bundy’s cows from Public Land) to defusing terrorist threats from Bundy’s thugs.
Sheriff Joe Lombardo told 8 News NOW the Bundy thugs had law enforcement outgunned:
Hotel Bomb Threats & Death Threats to Hotel Employees:
Within the past few days, Channel 8 News obtained Police Reports that show:
Holiday Inn Express received at least nine threatening phone calls in April, after they allowed BLM rangers to stay in the hotel.Workers were told to kick out the BLM or they “would not be standing in the morning.”
8 News also reports:
One Mesquite hotel worker, who didn’t want to go on camera, said he was told by an anonymous militia member that he would be “dragged out in the parking lot and shot”.
When BLM and law enforcement left Bundy and his fellow domestic terrorists without arresting anyone I thought it was a mistake. Now, however, I think law enforcement did the right thing. They diffused the insane, hostile situation and are currently compiling evidence to issue arrests. Better still, the infighting among the Bundy thugs is so intense they are actually pulling guns on each other.
LOMBARDO: “Sometimes in public safety, it is hard to back down. We are not trained to operate that way, but they [law enforcement] took the better route, and it was the right way to go. It’s all about lives. I mean, what is the better route to go? To be right or to be effective? “
After BLM and law enforcement left, Bundy and his domestic terrorist thug brethren turned their hate and paranoia on each other. They have been itching for a ‘civil war’ but I don’t think they thought their ‘civil war’ would be against each other.
Meanwhile, if Bundy’s thugs don’t kill each other first, Sheriff Lombardo confirmed to Channel 8 that no matter how long it takes, Bundy and his thugs will be dealt with.
Fox News 5 is reporting that Bundy’s armed thugs surrounded the City Council room and stood watch over a “standing-room only City council meeting” yesterday. Why did Bundy’s thugs attend the City Council meeting? Were they there to intimidate?
Fox News is also is claiming that the “attendees gathered for the town hall had nothing but praise for” Bundy’s thugs — but I’m not sure they’re correct as one woman sounds to be saying just the opposite.
“I called Metro, and their exact words to me were, ‘It’s the BLM and Cliven Bundy’s problem,’ – and I should take it up with one of those two. There are my children and my community, and if Metro doesn’t have the guts to come out and protect us – what are you here for? What are we paying you guys for?” another attendee said.
And I’m not sure if this is “praise” either?
COUNCIL MEMBER “I’m really disappointed in our sheriff for not being out here to protect the citizens who are out here.”
I have emailed the Fox News reporter, Craig Huber and asked if Hotel employees who had received death threats or employees who worked for Hotels that had received “bomb threats” were present. Huber has not replied yet but if he does I will share his answer.
Fox Link: http://www.fox5vegas.com/…
(H/T to Homers24 for Bundy thug’s threats to “drag out [hotel staff] in the parking lot and shot”
and H/T to all Kossacks who explained to me that Bundy’s dudes are not real militia but are demented thugs.)