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Daily Kos :: Cliven Bundy wants to tell you about ‘the Negro.’ I want to tell you about Cliven Bundy

Apologies to all those who will surely be offended-one way or another- by this but I believe it is important to tell the whole truth.

And I am tired of trying to laboriously explain the sociopolitical background and facts associated with this and other recent events.

It sickens me that good people I have associated with in spiritual community support not only this self absorbed idiot but also the idea that people bringing guns to “defend” this criminal from justice is the start of a positive change.

It is not. You cannot tear down the master’s house using the master’s tools!

You engage in the same low frequency negative attitudes and behaviors as the cabal/current criminals in charge and you perpetuate the system if violence, power over and greed that causes so much suffering.

It takes real courage to use nonviolence as a tactic because you are placing your faith in yourself, in God and in the innate goodness of your fellow humans.

It’s powerful because it challenges the current system in ways shooting back or threatening to, do not.
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Cliven Bundy wants to tell you about ‘the Negro.’ I want to tell you about Cliven Bundy
by Laura Clawson Apr 24, 2014 6:49am PDT

When a 67-year-old white Republican begins a sentence with “I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” you know the sentence is not ending well. But deadbeat rancher and domestic terrorist Cliven Bundy wasn’t content to stop with mere racism, however undisguised. No, he went ahead and added a dose of flagrant hypocrisy to the mix:

“I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro … because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” he asked.

Oh! Basically on government subsidy. Well, a man who’s been grazing his cattle on federal land for 20 years without even paying the ridiculously low (effectively: subsidized) rates he legally owed should know a thing or two about government subsidy. This is a man who sparked an armed standoff with the federal government in an effort to avoid paying themore than $1 million he owes. And he’s talking about how the effects of government subsidy on black people are that:

“They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”

Does government subsidy somehow work differently for white ranchers with 14 children? Sorry! Stupid question, I realize. Cliven Bundy is a special snowflake to whom no rules apply, ever. He gets to illegally graze cattle on public land for decades and take up arms against the federal government, and then when the New York Times comes calling to write about them, he gets to hold forth about how the Negroes were better off under slavery and it not only doesn’t make the headline, you have to read down 11 paragraphs to get to what would seem to be significant information about who this guy is. But apparently the Times thought the more significant piece of information in the article was that Bundy “savors the audience that rallied to his side.” What a piece of hard-hitting news that is—deadbeat on ego trip savors ego trip.

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Let’s be honest about what Bundy is, and is not | Las Vegas Review-Journal

I received this article in email from an environmental group I have followed for many years. I’m getting a bit tired of reading Koch brothers funded lies and propaganda on blogs and sharing it, questioning my beliefs, becoming disturbed and discussing these things online only to discover that I was reading a bunch of nonsense in the first place.

I really appreciate the ability of blogging to circumvent the control of media by just 4 huge corporations. But when the owners of those corporations figure out how to feed bullshit to bloggers and get it spread for free we are not an alternative-we are just doing the cabal’s work for them.

We are in fact perpetuating our own enslavement.

I’m not healthy enough to do background research and “due diligence” on everything I read and share. I trust my friends and the blogs I follow as well as my own gut instincts.

But one thing I have discovered about propaganda produced by well funded groups is that it is designed to give you just enough truth to hook you into the lies. It uses our emotions especially our drive toward morality and doing the right thing against us.

My gut instincts along with my own memory of reading about Bundy several times in the last 20 years told me he was no victim and no hero. But I second guess myself because I listen with respect to others views- I don’t want to be a blind dogmatic.

BLM has long been plaques with corruption just like every agency that controls anything greedy people can profit from. This does not change the fact that government owned federal wildlands are being preserved (or should be) for US the taxpayers and our descendants.

That man is stealing from me and you to make a profit.

LET’S BE HONEST ABOUT WHAT BUNDY IS, AND IS NOT

By STEVE SEBELIUS
LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL
So, now what?

Now that the Bureau of Land Management has stopped enforcing a federal court order to gather Cliven Bundy’s illegally grazing cattle, because of the presence of armed protesters, what’s happens next?

Nothing has really changed: Bundy still hasn’t paid his 20-year-overdue grazing fees, and owes the taxpayers of the United States of America more than $1 million. The so-called trespass cattle are still grazing on federal lands. The court order to impound those cows is still in effect.

About the only thing that’s different is that a bunch of armed would-be insurrectionists have gotten the message that if they show up with tough talk and loaded long guns, there’s a good chance the government will back down. And that’s not a very good message to send.

The BLM signaled that it’s not giving up on the case: It’s new leader, Neil Kornze, said in a statement that the government would continue to pursue administrative and judicial remedies to the situation.

U.S. Sen. Harry Reid, speaking to KRNV-Channel 4 in Reno on Monday, said there’s more to come: “Well, it’s not over. We can’t have an American people that violate the law and then just walk away from it. So it’s not over,” he said. (Reid added on Tuesday that he thought the BLM had made the right decision at the time, however.)

And, as Rob Mrowka, senior scientist at the Center for Biological Diversity noted, leaving things as they are now is not a viable solution: “The BLM is setting a dangerous precedent announcing that it will pick and choose who has to follow federal laws and who it will reward for violating them,” he said in a statement. “It [the BLM] has a moral responsibility to not let armed thugs and threats of violence seize hundreds of thousands of acres of public land for their own.”

I also like the way St. George News columnist Dallas Hyland put it in a piece published Sunday: “The stand-down was necessary to prevent bloodshed, but it must be recognized that if Bundy and a multitude of his supporters, militia friends and even family members who broke the law, are allowed to go unpunished, anarchy will follow,” Hyland wrote.

And that’s what we’re speaking of here: anarchy. This is not, as some have mistakenly characterized it, a battle over the First Amendment. (The BLM’s ill-considered and absurd creation of “First Amendment areas” for protesters was supposed to preserve public safety, but was rightly criticized. They proved so ineffective, they were later taken down.)

Also, this isn’t a battle over grazing rights, or a conflict between the Western ranching lifestyle and federal regulations. Bundy is clearly in the wrong, having refused to pay his grazing fees. He challenged the government in federal court, where his arguments were heard, considered and dismissed. Bundy is not standing his ground on righteous principle; he’s a scofflaw who simply refuses to pay the fees that other ranchers pay.

And Bundy himself is no hero, no “impressive general,” as one particularly ill-informed protester called him. Bundy has not only said he doesn’t recognize the authority of the BLM to manage public lands and make arrests, he’s also said he doesn’t “recognize the United Stages government as even existing.” Further, he’s demanded that county sheriffs across the nation “disarm” federal officials.

Those who rally to Bundy’s defense are not freedom fighters in the next American revolution, and they won no victory by obstructing federal officers serving a lawful court order (in potential violation of 18 USC 111 and 18 USC 1509). They’re not patriots or foot soldiers, or any kind of soldiers. They’re enablers of a welfare cowboy with wrongheaded political beliefs, who’s more than willing to let them help him out of a tax problem. Anybody who thinks otherwise is deluding himself.

But the question remains: Now that Bundy (and his newfound armed friends) have, temporarily at least, faced down the feds, what’s next? Will it be anarchy or will it be law and order?

Steve Sebelius is a Review-Journal political columnist who blogs at SlashPolitics.com. Follow him on Twitter (@SteveSebelius) or reach him at 387-5276 or SSebelius@reviewjournal.com.

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